Tag: religion

berbsurtblurgh:

Anonymous asked: am i the only one who REALLY REALLY REALLY needs to see the signless with like, a saint sebastian homage. just tied to a stake naked and shot full of arrows and crying but also Digging It if you get my drift B))

as soon as I saw this ask I muttered “Oh well now I HAVE to draw it.”

He’s been fucking himself for hours

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vcreatures:

Christianities appropriation into the Jian Naodai culture is one
steeped in misinterpretation, indigenous lore, belief and disbelief.
First contact between missionaries and indigenous people were quite
peaceful. Multiple Christian sects were introduced on this bustling
trading port plant with Catholicism and Mormonism being the most active.

The Jian Nodai are the sole dominant race and span throughout the
planet. Each is a unique but similar extension of one another, sharing
certain ideologies, yet different cultural attitudes and customs.
Groups live within their own territories and are relatively peaceful
towards one another.

Not a Dogmatic race the Jian Naodai’s spiritual philosophies are
animistic in nature. Highly intricate and complex, it is a
spirituality riddled with “divine” planetary beings and sentient
natural forces. Their beliefs, while not overt, are intertwined in
their secular life, where their heavenly bodies are not above or below
them but live and die amongst them.

The formalized sects of Christianity brought a sense of religious
structure and universal law to a highly diverse and semi nomadic
people.Yet as old world customs were beginning to be lost and
Christian teachings become more in depth and strict many clans of Jian
Naodai began rejecting these alien faiths.

It was the Catholic belief of transubstantiation of the Eucharist,
which sparked the initial resistance. A religion founded on the
teachings of a risen from the dead man god who’s followers ate his
‘flesh and blood’ was taken with great horror and touched upon racial
taboos of Partaking of flesh and necromancy. This piece of information
harkened to the indigenous belief shared across all tribes of the
luwongne.

Christianity became synonymous with the belief in these necromantic
lords. Luwongne are believed to be plague binging, carnivorous,
reanimated bodies of Jian Naodai and are able to summon the dead and
other forces as its army. They are believed to convert living
followers promising them power and riches.

It is not entirely know whether or not the supernatural aspects of
the Luwongne stems from any truth. As Luwongne do in fact exist. They
are typically rogue warlords and are a possible threat to Jian Nodai
tribes. Many in fact came to use Christian iconography and see Jesus
as a necromantic deity.

This sparked hysteria across the planet similar to the witch craze
that plague earth’s history. Human inhabitants of the planet,
regardless of faith, were regularly attacked believed to be Luwongne
henchmen. Churches and other human built infrastructures are regularly
attacked and destroyed. Fellow Jian Naodai who became devote or
suspected to be Christian are ritually sacrificed to tar pits.

Handguide to the Dark Carnival, or how I learned to stop worrying and make great subjuggalators.

quixoticquotite:

      Hello, fantroll community, I bet you thought you’d never hear from me again. Well, regardless, I’m still surviving on the outskirts of pesterchum and tumblr searching for unrecognized, untapped, or just generally un-appreciated literary potential. I have found a lot of it- but during this search I actually started listening to a bit of Insane Clown Posse. It struck me after analyzing their music and the wicked word that a lot of people have overlooked some very basic things in their pursuit of creating proper subjuggalators either unintentionally or completely by choice. In either case, I wanted to write down all of my findings and my own interpretations on the true religion of the Dark Carnival within the Alternian Universe for anyone who wishes to strive towards a character who is as accurate as canonically possible to the actual Juggalo Mythology and way-of-life. I will go in sections and maybe even occasionally have deviations or graphs, but for the most part I will start out fairly easy.

     If you truly want to know about the Dark Carnival and if you truly want to fine-tune your juggalo to be a real wicked motherfucking clown, then continue to read. If you’re looking for an excuse to protest against my findings, keep reading. I might namedrop people.

Part One: Motherfuckin’ Introduction

     If you’re in the fantroll community or roleplay homestuck-related matters then you probably are familiar with the religion of the Dark Carnival that is often present in the background of many subjuggalators and tragic-storied lowblooded trolls who have had bad experiences with it. The idea of the religion originates from the rap group “Insane Clown Posse” and “Psychopathic Records”, whose music may or may not be awful depending on the listener. Generally, the practicing of the religion is defaulted to indigo-blooded trolls only with a very strict policy against any other castes, although it is very conceivable that one can still adhere to the wicked word despite not being Indigo. In fact, it would be a main goal of any practitioner of the religion to convert as many people as possible to their lifestyle to be saved. There’s been some debate as to how the system of the religion is run, but I personally like to believe that in every district of Alternian land there exists a main gathering area (The Gathering) as well as several independent churches/traveling carnivals/stationary carnivals whose presence could be compared to different factions of Christianity. Of course, one could also merely practice the religion in their spare time and devote little time to mass congregation.

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Two examples: A brother and a Sister

Part Two: Wicked-ass politics

     The Indigo caste themselves are guard-dogs of the spectrum and its potential enemies. Anyone who rejects this rejects the entire theory of the Alternian social system, and it is very rare that any one indigo would become more powerful than Her Imperial Condescenscion would allow. Indigos aren’t supposed to ever be in charge of any real political power as they would pose a massive threat to the hierarchy as it stands. The Dark Carnival is, as the Empress sees it, a tool of manipulation for a healthy portion of the Indigo caste to do as her whim desires. This could be done by labeling specific targets as heretics and ensuring their death by the hand of any practicing subjuggalator or even labeling an entire caste of blood (see the limeblood theory) as heretical and ensuring the mass slaughter of any troll sharing the hue of that labeled caste. Of course, if one were to adhere to the lime-blood theory (that they were wiped out by an executive political decision towards mass culling) then it would be inconceivable that any serious and practicing subjuggalator would not ruthlessly slay one of heretical blood the moment they found out their hue.

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An example of an independent practitioner

Part Three: Ethics, Leaders, Wealth, and Death (Blood, Guts, Fingers, and Toes)

     So, are there head honchos to the religion? Sure, absolutely. They’re called Ringmasters, and may be in charge of anything from an entire division to a humble church or farm. Any leader of a large body of subjuggalators would be the ringmaster of that body. The Grand Highblood himself could easily be seen as a ringmaster as well as a wildcard member of legendary status. THE RINGMASTERS ARE NOT CORRUPT AND WILL ONLY BE RINGMASTERS AFTER DEVOTING THEIR ENTIRE LIFE, BELIEFS, AND PERSONAL LUXURY TO THE WICKED MOTHERFUCKING WORD. IT IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF HERESY TO EVER USE THE CARNIVAL TO ONE’S OWN ADVANTAGE. IT IS HERESY TO STEAL FROM THE CARNIVAL. IT IS HERESY TO GO AGAINST THE WICKED MOTHERFUCKING WORD. IT IS HERESY TO HAVE PERSONAL WEALTH THAT YOU COULD EASILY ALLOCATE TO THE FURTHERMENT OF THE CARNIVAL YET DO NOT. IT IS HERESY TO ACT SUPERIOR TO A FELLOW BROTHER OR SISTER. YOU ARE ALL WICKED CLOWNS IN THE EYES OF THE WRAITH AND THE CARNIVAL OF CARNAGE. YOU WILL ALL ADHERE TO SHANGRI-LA AND GO TO HEAVEN OR SUFFER THE FATE OF A FIREY HELL IN HELL’S PIT. THIS IS NON NEGOTIABLE AND IF YOU BREAK THESE RULES AS A SUBJUGGALATOR YOU WILL BE EVEN MORE BRUTALLY PUNISHED THAN A NON-BELIEVER BECAUSE YOU KNOW BETTER.

YOU ARE DOWN WITH THE CLOWN UNTIL YOU ARE DEAD IN THE GROUND.

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On top: Most likely to make it to Shangri-La

On bottom: Most likely to make it to Hell’s Pit.

     A ringmaster of a body is the superficial law of the body after the law of the Dark Carnival. It is absolutely inconceivable that a ringmaster would ever deal with anything heretical with anything other than swift and brutal punishment or rehabilitation (torture- a popular form of dealing with non-believers who have commited heresy. One possible option would be to force the non-believer to open the riddle box, which could contain anything from instant death to maiming and mutilation to a fresh bottle of elixir (faygo). Another option which is often used for mass cullings and the slaying of heritics is the Tilt-A-Whirl, a carnival ride which moves so fast once entered that it will literally paint the surrounding area with the blood of its occupants and “separate the body from the soul”). The ringmaster is there to make difficult decisions that are otherwise not explicitly stated in the wicked word. An example of a decision would be if a subjuggalator were to encounter a human.

     We can safely deduce that crimson red is a heretical blood, but an intelligent subjuggalator would be conflicted as to what to do as they would understand the proclamation was never issued with a species of entirely crimson red in mind. Worse yet, should the human never have heard of the wicked word before, which would immediately make it the subjuggalator’s responsibility to make them see the light of Shangri-la or suffer the consequences of not spreading the motherfuckin’ truth, an act which is heretical in nature. Why not just kill them? Subjuggalators randomly kill people all the time, right? Yes and no.

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Pictured above: The Walking Dead

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Pictured above: The Walking Conundrum

     Culling is the Indigos purpose in the caste. Murder will easily make a brother or sister happy and giddy, and (contrary to popular belief) the axe/hatchet is the preferred weapon of choice for most. Clubs are a close second. However, killing with no purpose other than sport is actually frowned upon in the Dark Carnival. The wicked word believes in a purpose for all, which is where things start to blur into gray. It is very easy to pass a kill off as “in the name of the messiahs”, an excused which is always encouraged. Popular targets of cullings, however, include heretics to the spectrum, heretical (mutant) hues, the obscenely wealthy, and those who don’t understand that their actions have consequences to them (the idle/ignorant). Do not think, however, that if you don’t meet any of these qualifications it means you are safe. A subjuggalator always needs blood to paint, brother.

     Chapter two coming soon.

Things to consider never doing:

  • Subjugs who don’t care about their own religion at all
  • Subjugs who are obscenely wealthy and/or politically powerful
  • Subjugs who kill everything in sight if it isn’t indigo
  • Subjugs who don’t kill mutants on sight (unless they have second doubts about their own religion)
  • Subjugs who think the carnival is just partying, sex, and faygo (Not to say there isn’t a shit load of it)
  • Mixing scotch with beer

PSA

corteztrolls:

pyreticmiscreant:

cadtee:

boobitrolls:

and If anyone whines that this is directed towards them I will shit

Anyway, lets talk about SUBJUGGULATORS

Subjuggulators aren’t just fucking CLOWN trolls, they aren’t just rainbows, faygo and fucking “omg lets go fucking kill SHIT WOWIE” 

  • NO
  • NO
  • NO
  • NOOO

They aren’t all fucking brutes, they aren’t all shouty idiots, they’re not all unintelligent. Subjuggulators are manipulative and most know very well how to mess with the mind. Most wouldn’t stand around and take shit talk. Most are very, as it should be known, CAPRICIOUS, meaning UNPREDICTABLE. but Not all act as quickly as others, and they’re certainly not all “FAYGO, BLOOD INSANITY LOL” THAT IS NOT A SUBJUGGULATOR STOP DOING THAT. 

It should VARY between them how they act, but there are usually VERY basic concepts to them as well. I’m not trying to be a fucking dictator of subjug trolls I’m just fucking saying a lot of the time I see them and they’re just like “hurhur lets go kill a guy lol sopor slime HONK” and i just cannot fucking take it anymore.

  • Extremely devoted to their religion
  • Basically a “criminal mastermind group”
  • Succesful because of their ability to manipulate others not to mention other indigos into joining.
  • Unpredictable, can be innocent or any sort of other manner. 
  • Bloodlust. Certain. Kinds. Of bloodlust. 
  • Treat their religion LIKE A RELIGION not like a fucking FAD just to get in with the cool crowd.

So think about this shit while you make one, if they’re going to be a subjug, at least have them act like one without spilling over the top. and remember. They are a cult

Not to mention the fact that subjugs are honestly kind of like how the Nazis worked (in canon), where the Grand Highblood is the main runner and he’s manipulated and brainwashed such a large group of indigos to become genocidal ‘maniacs’. It’s a select group of individuals chosen to kill out other individuals because of their bloodcolor and appearance.

Chucklevoodoos is another thing, you can’t be brainless to shove nightmares down another troll’s throat and give them panic breakdowns and fear into their hearts. They can use this at any given moment, it’s terrifying to think about from a victim standpoint.

They’re unpredictable. When it comes to luring in prey, I doubt they’re going to go out and call them a ‘shitblood’ and insult them and scare them because that means their prey is going to RUN. The object is to probably lure them in when you’re in a one-on-one position and the victim might be dangerous as well. It’s easing your prey into a trap— it’s a luring tactic.

Just a little bit of my own opinion.. but yeah! Subjugs aren’t something to embellish and glorify, they’re horrible and they’re scary, scary guys to mess around with. They’re no joke.

lmao even though throsh was probably the most shouty, unintelligent, brutish subjuggulator ever, i definitely agree with pretty much all of this.

Every cult is going to have their members who fall short but this is all very agreeable for the reason that the religion that most subjuggulators follow is the one that’s most apparent on Alternia.

It had to have been a very ongoing thing. it’s based around the cherubs, who would basically turn into giant sex-snakes. Joking aside you could see that from the skulls that Meenah found. Even on Beforus they were a major factor, hence why theres Kurloz with his makeup still and the religious-ness. 

The cherubs are basically two personalities that signify the greatest good and the greatest evil. So I’d like to add that the religion isn’t even necessarily for purely subjugs or a violent thing. However the whole deal the subjuggulators made it into could be some sort of vein side-cult. I mean the fucking grand highblood painted in blood on his walls because he probably thought it was nice decor. Also trolls aren’t a nice species. You have to think about that too. Also I like to think it’s a recurring thing in homestuck for the trolls because Beforus was the pre-scratch Alternia and It was somewhat good kind of like earth. But then They basically reset it and Whoop there’s Alternia, brutish and wild. So what does that remind you of? For me it kind of shouts the whole good/evil thing again. But that’s just theory. But yeah no back to the original deal. 

Their whole culture is apparently based around it and it’s not something that’s just some silly honk honk lets kill lowbloods sort of thing. It seems more like a system of judgement to me. But I’m just rambling on here.

Indigobloods have a habit of being notoriously awful. So do highbloods. Trolls in general. But them especially. They have to deal with chucklevoodoos and I’d expect nightmares and voices a lot more than any other trolls and characters like Gamzee would even sedate themselves with something like a drug/sopor to avoid it. I mean the second Gamzee went off his drug he lost it and killed two of his friends, went after karkat and sollux and then even after that plotted evil with god knows who. 

But yeah. While they’re awful thers no reason to say they can’t be calculating and unpredictable.

TL;DR Every group of people has its masterminds and idiots also some rambling about evidence in canon.

saccharinesylph:

Death is the Maiden.

Drew this to see if I could still digitally paint for Gabby. Also because I WISH TO SHARE A DUMB HEADCANON FOR THE HANDMAID. Terezi spoke that she’s sort of a grim reaper-like figure on Alternia. Now, since Alternia is such a violent place, it only makes sense there’s a lot of death.

So, I like to think that in certain lowblood circles, the Handmaid was revered as a kind of goddess of death and mercy. Children learn very young to pray to the Cullmistress for a swift and painless death. A peaceful death is considered a blessing by the Handmaid, and escaping death more than once is often a sign that the Handmaid has taken a pale or red interest in you.

There is iconography of her sold underground, and soldiers trapped off-planet leave offerings to her. To lowbloods she’s a benevolent figure. She comforts the dying and carries dying wrigglers in her arms off to paradise. The Summoner often spoke well of her, and addressed her before battle.

Highbloods pray to her in secret, for a heroic or blazing death of glory. It’s far more seen as lowblood superstition though.

As for the handmaid herself, she finds this terribly stupid, but endearing. It was nice to be welcomed instead of greeted with screaming and writhing. But when the Psiioniic welcomed her near, she was glad the universe was ending.

vcreatures:

Earthly religions beyond the milky way- Buddhism

Kamadhatu culture is one steeped in the rich and rapid world of commerce and technology. The little remnants of spirituality is one greatly absorbed and transmutated into cultural and commercial constructs, ideologies and merchandise. The most profitable and broadcasted of religious/spiritual practice to commercial product is the birthing coffins. Birthing coffins are a vital part of the Kamadhatu life cycle. Biologically “immortal” Kamadhatu’s have a 4-stage metamorphosis. The last, ending in death or rebirth, is the Chrysalis stage (the Birthing coffin) A natural part of the life cycle, the dyeing Kamadhatu will produce a thick shell, where it will decompose and if healthy enough will reconstitute and “rebirth” with in 2 weeks of its chrysalis formation. Once a natural process it is now reliant on technological models, at least for those living in the industrialized world, to undergo a possible rebirth. (Traditional belief states that those who have more to accomplish will be rebirthed and will reincarnate in the specific stage based on the individuals conviction and the cosmic and biological forces that dictate it) A probable rebirthing comes down to economic standing. Wealthier Kamadhatuare are able to buy optimum birthing coffins with premium updates and revisions that are individualized for members of the family.  Yet most can only afford to rent one, which will be used to reincarnate all the members of the family. Industrial birthing coffins however are not completely reliable even in higher end models. The possibility of rebirthing is not a sure fire thing, industrialized or not, many factors contribute to the possibility of rebirth and reincarnation. Premium models ‘guarantee” a 70% chance of rebirth with a 40% chance of reincarnation in desired stage of life cycle. Cheaper models showcase less than half of those percentages.  Birthing coffins also come with a series of different insurances and packages due to the unpredictable nature of the life cycle out come. Each package can help a family raise their now infant father or instar 3 (teenager) grandmother. Yet it is not uncommon for families to abandon undesired life cycle incarnated family members, due to economics or in-ability to raise them. Some families even offer the unwanted incarnated to pay off the debt, at which point the incarnate will become a product of the company and be used for experimentation etc. Buddhism came unbenounced when Chinese embargos took fleet to create trading agreements, so many different Buddhist sects and teachings were fragmented and loosely translated into a homogenized Buddhism. Buddhism was considered a fad religion in most of the industrialized world, practiced loosely, superficially and secularly as mysterious religion from the stars. Yet in the rural parts of the planet Buddhist teaching has been absorbed and incorporated quite seamlessly into the remnants of the indigenous religion. Many Buddhist teachers, leaders and even the Dali lama consider the Kamadhatu to be celestial Devas spoken of in Buddhist cosmology. The oldest of the Kamadhatu, most reincarnated, are seen as bodhisattvas constantly reincarnating to teach and enlighten.